{"id":5290,"date":"2009-08-28T18:40:59","date_gmt":"2009-08-29T03:10:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/?p=5290"},"modified":"2009-08-29T05:57:55","modified_gmt":"2009-08-29T14:27:55","slug":"interview-with-loren-munk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/interview-with-loren-munk\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Loren Munk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>I first met Loren, aka his reportage alias James Kalm, online. In fact I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve only corresponded with him online. But I feel as though I know him through his video reviews of the NYC arts scene. As James Kalm, he rides a bike to the city&#8217;s openings, equipped with a handheld video camera, providing the rest of us with a generous dollop of wry wit and an astute critique of the long held center of the art world. Often courageously so, as he&#8217;s been not so politely ushered out of museums and recently negotiated a somewhat threatening dispute over his right to video on a gallery&#8217;s private property.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Munk paints fascinating geographical histories of the New York arts scene, intricate and brightly colored, with humorous sidebars and captions that offer a deep knowledge of art history and of the artist inhabitants of the city.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">For larger views of his work, visit his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lorenmunk.com\/portfolio.html\" target=\"_blank\">website<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">&#8216;Art\u00e2\u20ac\u2122stown&#8217; (2000-2005), oil on linen 68 x 58 inches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/artstown-juxtapose.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5294\" title=\"Artstown-juxtapose\" src=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/artstown-juxtapose.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"382\" height=\"450\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: Can you talk a little about your background and how long you&#8217;ve been charting artists&#8217; territories, with your distinctive paintings that combine map making, iconography and an almost Mad magazine or <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zap_Comix\" target=\"_blank\">Zap comix<\/a><em>\u00c2\u00a0caption\u00c2\u00a0style?\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0A second part of this question is; how do you know so much about so many artists?<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">LM: I was born in Salt Lake City in a family descending from some mainline Mormons.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>We moved to Idaho when I was ten.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Shortly thereafter I was in Sunday-school and asked an inconvenient question.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>They told me not to come back until I stopped making trouble.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>I never went back and realized, asking questions is fun.<span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">I learned to read maps in the Boy Scouts, and taught classes in it when I was in the Army in Europe, plotting the paths of nuclear fallout.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>My tour of duty in Germany is where I got my basic art history, and had the first opportunity to visit great museums in places like Berlin, Amsterdam, Paris and Munich.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Back stateside I decided to become an artist, but there wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t any scene to speak of in Idaho, so I came to New York to go to the Art Students League on the GI Bill.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Just as the East Village scene started to pop, I got a job driving the delivery truck for the neighborhood Utrecht art supply store.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>I guess that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s when I started to get to know about artists and where they lived.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d drive over and drop off their paint and canvas, had to have a list and map in my head and I guess it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just kept growing.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Besides going to plenty of gallery and museum openings I spend a lot of time studying art history texts, reading old magazines and doing research on the internet.\u00c2\u00a0<span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">&#8216;Clement Greenberg (Large)&#8217; (2005-2006), oil on linen 48 x 72 inches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/big-greenberg-e-mail-jpg.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5302\" title=\"big-greenberg-e-mail-jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/big-greenberg-e-mail-jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"312\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: Can you discuss your current work and thought processes.\u00c2\u00a0What is the context of your work, do you have any set ideologies as a painter? You&#8217;ve said in one interview that\u00c2\u00a0&#8216;<\/em><span class=\"ec\"><span><em>painting is the true evolutionary state of alchemy&#8217;<\/em><\/span><\/span><span class=\"ec\"><span><em>.\u00c2\u00a0Can you expound on this idea?<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><span class=\"ec\"><span>LM: I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m usually repelled by art theory, but I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve got one, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s called <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153The Physics of Aesthetics\u00e2\u20ac\u009d.<\/em><span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m fascinated by how the art world functions, what does or doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t get seen, how we come to value certain things and not others, and what forces allow or direct a society\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s vision and perception.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>This is the overarching theme to all the work from the maps and charts, the video documentation to the critical writing.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>It might be simpleminded, but I think there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an analogous relation to astrophysics, light being the equivalent of awareness.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been categorized as part of the <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Mapping\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> movement, an <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Informationist\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> or someone making <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Meta-art\u00e2\u20ac\u009d.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><span class=\"ec\"><span>As a painter it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been important for me to engage with history, particularly the New York School and all its derivations.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Ad Reinhardt, a great influence, said<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Art is art, everything else is everything else,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> and <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153All art comes from art\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em>.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m taking a dialectical approach.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Where Reinhardt emptied out his painting, reduced his color, and claimed to be making the <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153last paintings\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em>, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m using art, filling the picture with its community and history, using juicy physical color, and saying <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153painting is just beginning.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><span><em>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><span class=\"ec\"><span>Regarding alchemy, I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t get too specific because part of the philosophy is its tradition of obfuscation and misdirection. Just as the dinosaurs evolved into birds, the <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153great work\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> (alchemy) has evolved into painting, not in a metaphorical way, but in actuality.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>If you look at the history of chemistry, a lot of it has been devised in the pursuit of pigments, an attempt to satisfy man\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s insatiable appetite for color. (For anyone interested in this I\u00e2\u20ac\u02dcll recommend a great book, <em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.press.uchicago.edu\/presssite\/metadata.epl?mode=synopsis&amp;bookkey=27445\" target=\"_blank\">Bright Earth<\/a><\/span><\/em><em> <\/em><\/span><span>by Philip Ball.)<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>This is bound to alchemy\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s quest for hidden knowledge or enlightenment, the Philosopher\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Stone.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>What other activity literally reflects the goal of turning dross matter into gold?<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>What other activity can reveal more philosophic or spiritual conclusions?<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>How else can you combine burnt bones, the essence of madder root and rabbit skin glue to drag an image from fantasy into reality?<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>And yet what other practice appears more simple and open to all comers?<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">&#8216;What Manhattan Makes, Brooklyn Takes&#8217; (2004-2006), oil on linen 72 x 64 inches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/what-manhattan-makes-juxtap.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5309\" title=\"what-manhattan-makes-juxtap\" src=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/what-manhattan-makes-juxtap.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"397\" height=\"450\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: Your work reminds me a little of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pbs.org\/hanshofmann\/red_grooms_001.html\" target=\"_blank\">Red Grooms,<\/a> you work in a diagrammatic, intensely typographical style also reminiscent of a traditional letterprint shop like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.countrymusichalloffame.com\/site\/experience-hatch.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">Hatch Show Print<\/a><\/em><em> in Nashville, TN. Who say that \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcAdvertising without posters is like fishing without worms\u00e2\u20ac\u2122<\/em><span><em>.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Who or what are some of your influences?<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">LM: As a kid growing up in the 60s, I loved the psychedelic posters and album covers put out by folks like the Family Dog, Rick Griffin, Peter Max, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.victormoscoso.com\/book1.html\" target=\"_blank\">Victor Moscoso<\/a>.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Underground comics were in the mix with R. Crumb and<a href=\"http:\/\/lambiek.net\/artists\/w\/wilson.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> S. Clay Wilson<\/a>.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>For a couple of years while studying at Idaho State, I worked in the poster shop for Student Programming.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I designed and printed dozens of posters.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>This also gave me an appreciation for type and fonts, and a basic knowledge about their potential for emotional resonance.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>One measure of success was how many of our posters were stolen before the events happened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">Of course I love Picasso, Braque, Gris, all the Cubists and Matisse, the German expressionists, DADA, Duchamp, the Pop artists.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m a big fan of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kurt_Schwitters\" target=\"_blank\">Kurt Schwitters<\/a> and his progeny, including Rauschenberg and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bruce_Conner\" target=\"_blank\">Bruce Conner<\/a>.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I love the Outsiders and Art Brut artists like Howard Finster, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mfah.org\/exhibition.asp?par1=1&amp;par2=1&amp;par3=279&amp;par4=1&amp;par5=1&amp;par6=1&amp;par7=&amp;lgc=4&amp;eid=&amp;currentPage=\" target=\"_blank\">Thornton Dial<\/a>, Adolf\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Adolf_W\u00c3\u00b6lfli\" target=\"_blank\">W\u00c3\u00b6lfli<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Henry_Darger\" target=\"_blank\">Henry Darger<\/a>.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I find myself becoming more excited by these guys than by the fashionable academically accepted artists that are foisted on us repeatedly by the major museums.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Stuart Davis is someone who still inspires me, especially his use of the flat color plane, and I think <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alfredjensen.com\/home.html\" target=\"_blank\">Alfred Jensen<\/a> is an artist who still hasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t been understood enough to see what an incredible breakthrough his work is.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I think about a group of <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153mystical\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> artists from the <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Enlightenment\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> like Robert Fludd and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jakob_B\u00c3\u00b6hme\" target=\"_blank\">Jacob B\u00c3\u00b6hme<\/a> because they were attempting to translate very complex transcendental concepts into fantastic graphic images.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>A lot of the best abstraction is based on this idea of encoding mystical principles into painting.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">Having cut my teeth as a Neo-Expressionist and Kitsch artist, I wanted to remove the excesses of the hand from the work, to invoke a kind of Warholian distance, or institutional momentum; to this end, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been using Printshop and Photoshop programs, to help design the pictures.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I disagree with <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=AivIqAcH10MC&amp;pg=PA67&amp;lpg=PA67&amp;dq=clement+greenberg,+content+is+ineffable&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=UkUV6k91pI&amp;sig=Ldaqm8mOgyW_4Lc3rhG2Tt2Dp70&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=YpSYSo7dBaSJ8QblsIzGAQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1#v=onepage&amp;q=ineffable&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\">Greenberg\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s<\/a> claim that <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153content is ineffable\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em>. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d like to think that attempting to provide at least the illusion of a clear and concise message can only enhance the value of an image.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">&#8216;SOHO Map&#8217; (2005-2006), oil on linen 60 x 72 inches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/soho-map-e-mail.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5312\" title=\"soho-map-e-mail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/soho-map-e-mail.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"380\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: How do you manage to document so many openings in the NYC area, and still produce your own work? Is there a set time that you devote to the paintings on a daily\/weekly basis?<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">LM:\u00c2\u00a0Let me state here I couldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t do any of this work without the support of my wife Kate and our family.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s why I close every <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Kalm Report\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> with <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153thank you Kate.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d <\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">I think that it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s important for every artist to realize they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re part of a tribe.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Because I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m living in New York City I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been blessed to be able to keep tabs on the most dynamic community of artists in the world.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>To know where the current state of innovation and progress is, one must be aware of what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s going on, what ideas are floating around and whose generating the most critical interest.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I consider visiting and documenting as many shows as I can part of my practice.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>There\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an aesthetic to <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153seeing\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just as artistically important as creating that which is intended to be <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153seen.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d <\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">Still, I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t cover it all.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m kicking myself for missing the fantastic Francis Bacon preview at the Met.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I encourage anyone who has the time and inclination to go out, record and post as much art as they can.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153God wants you to see.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">I try to paint every day.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Usually I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll start off in the mornings with a couple of hours of video editing or writing (I have the only ongoing hardcopy column focusing on the Brooklyn art scene that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s regularly published in New York City).<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>If I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m caught up with laundry, house cleaning and shopping, I hit the studio around noon and try to work till six or seven.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Then on Thursdays or Fridays it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s out to see some openings.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Maybe once a week I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll head to Chelsea in the afternoon just to catch up on things I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve missed.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>For the last twelve years, every Sunday, I cruise Williamsburg on my bike, and check out as much as I can.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/QgPI64QLzNE&amp;feature\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/QgPI64QLzNE&amp;feature\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<h5>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Black Acid Co-op at DEITCH PROJECTS<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><em><span>James Kalm has been watching the progress of this extensive installation for weeks.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/07\/18\/arts\/design\/18deitch.html\" target=\"_blank\">Black Acid Co-Op<\/a> is the collaboration of Justin Lowe and Jonah Freeman, and this piece explores the dark manic recesses of meth-lab culture and its analogues relationship to middle America, and the glamorous New York art world.<span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Entering through the basement, visitors ascend through a labyrinth of burned out trailers meth-labs and art galleries in a journey through an hellatious environment of cultural debris.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/h5>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><em>\u00c2\u00a0fd:\u00c2\u00a0I usually ask how artists stay current, but that would be a redundant question for you. Instead I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll ask how you promote your own work and whether you strive to exhibit on a regular basis &#8211; regular meaning yearly.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">LM: This is a tricky question.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I created the persona of James Kalm about thirteen years ago as a means of entering the critical conversation without the taint of being tagged as an <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153artist who writes\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em>, and I remained anonymous for over ten years. <span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>The <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Kalm Report\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> grew out of that as conceptual project, and like any project it has a list of rules and criteria, among which are: Loren Munk and his work will never appear on camera or be mentioned in the<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Kalm Report\u00e2\u20ac\u009d.<\/em><span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I did this to avoid charges of blatant self promotion.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m swamped every day with YouTube videos and Facebook requests from artists trying to promote themselves, and they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re all pretty much pathetic and boring.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">I wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t recommend being a writer\/artist to anyone.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Unfortunately, in the New York art world it seems, people can only think of you in one way.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Although I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve had a somewhat successful thirty year career as a painter, had dozens of one man shows (many in Europe) been included in very prestigious group exhibitions, received major commissions, sold a lot of paintings and been purchased by some of the greatest collectors, most dealers can only think of me as a critic, someone who exists to help them promote their artists and generate interest for them.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>With the recent collapse in the market, and the shocking number of galleries closing, I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really blame them for their tunnel vision.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Still, though it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s getting harder every day, I try to work with good galleries whenever I can.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Because some of the paintings take several years to complete, having a show every year might be pushing it. <span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: Some artists suggest that the studio is too private for them, that they require a social forum for their work. Since your work seems to be so much about community and a totality of historical perspective, I wonder if you maintain a continuing dialogue with other artists, outside your normal \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcrecording\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 work.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">As I said above, the art world is a tribe.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Despite what they tell you in college art departments, outside the tribe most people don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really give a damn about <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153art\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> or artists (unless there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s money involved).<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I maintain a group of friends, galleries and mostly through the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.brooklynrail.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Brooklyn Rail<\/a><\/em><em>, <\/em><span>young critics that I stay in touch with.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Nowadays, everyone is so busy that we can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t talk all the time, but if there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an issue of importance, we can reach out to the group.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><span>LM: There\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s also a list of blog sites, like yours, that people can use to stay in communication and some of the social networking sites like Facebook.<\/span><!--EndFragment-->\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/ezFU30Xzmp0&amp;feature\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/ezFU30Xzmp0&amp;feature\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<h5><span>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Untitled Art Project\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Try-outs New York Part I<\/span><\/h5>\n<h5><span>James Kalm has been hearing rumors rumbling around New York about a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Reality\u00e2\u20ac\u009d TV show dealing with artists and their careers for months.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Tipped off about these auditions by Martin Bromirski, he peddles over to the West Village on a Sunday afternoon in July to see what all the hubbub is about.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>In the process, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s intimidated, taunted, threatened with arrest, and shunted to the side.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Ironically this \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Report\u00e2\u20ac\u009d delivers a reality check on \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Reality\u00e2\u20ac\u009d TV, and gives exposure to many artists who failed to fit the template and clich\u00c3\u00a9s of the Mainstream Media.<span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/h5>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: You deny that you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re a critic, yet you do allow some artists a thumbs up, others a subtle show of criticism. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve heard you call out during your videotaping; \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcgorgeous work\u00e2\u20ac\u2122<\/em><span><em> or the more muted response of <\/em><\/span><em>\u00e2\u20ac\u02dcthanks, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m moving on here\u00e2\u20ac\u2122<\/em><span><em>. Can you define what makes a great or even a good work of art?<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">LM: Officially I have been rejected from membership in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aicausa.org\/ClubPortal\/ClubStatic.cfm?clubID=280&amp;pubmenuoptID=2897\" target=\"_blank\">AICA<\/a> (the International Association of Art Critics), I can show you the ding letter and the returned check.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Funny, because I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve had hundreds of thousands of words published (probably more than their Secretary of Membership, some guy I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve never heard of).<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">Being an artist myself, I realize that there are an unbelievable amount of sacrifices made to produce art.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I can do straight criticism &#8211; that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s pretty easy, there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a formula &#8211; but I like to approach it in a more artistic way.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Much of the art I cover I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not crazy about.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Being a painter I have my prejudices, but I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m trying to provide a porthole into the New York art scene.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I want to allow people to be able to see as much as they can for themselves, not just the artifacts or the galleries, but the artists and their milieu.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>The art world\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s class or status system, gatekeepers trying to shut off those they don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t consideration worthy of comment, institutional critique and inflated egos, are all very entertaining elements.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>If I can capture some of that, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s golden.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">As for my own taste, even in the most highly mediated work, there has to be a sense of the human.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m moved by the messiness of life, people\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s daily struggles over the long term, and their attempt to find some order and dignity in it all.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Also, I think it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s important to look at the margins, the women, the middle-aged, the gay, the obsessed, the eccentric and the forgotten.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Not all the interesting and innovative art being made today is by artists <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/04\/10\/arts\/design\/10trie.html\" target=\"_blank\">\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Younger than Jesus\u00e2\u20ac\u009d.<\/a><\/em><span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>There\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s something to be said for the mastery and grace that can only come from long decades of dedicated work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/-OK0wiVf-Lw&amp;feature\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/-OK0wiVf-Lw&amp;feature\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<h5>James Kalm travels to Atlanta Georgia to allow viewers to take advantage of a generous invitation to visit one of America\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s most unique art collections.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawvision.com\/articles\/55\/billarnett\/billarnett.html\" target=\"_blank\">Bill Arnett<\/a> and his son Matt have amassed one of the largest collections of vernacular African-American art in the world.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Featuring works from artists like Thornton Dail, Purvis Young and Lonnie Holley, the Arnetts are committed to the further study and advocacy of this vibrant but widely overlooked aspect of American visual art.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Part I includes a virtually uncut interview with the controversial Bill Arnett, as he articulately explores the cultural implications of this work.<\/h5>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>fd: Part I: What are some of your long term goals for your own painting career?\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><em>Part II of this question: Do you see the internet as a threat to your current video process- what will happen if and when a majority of artists are showing and selling online? Will there still be a model for you to work from if virtual exhibits become more prolific?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment-->\u00c2\u00a0LM:\u00c2\u00a0Like any artist, my goals are modest; to have a one man show at MoMA, appear on the cover of ARTFORUM and Art in America in the same month, be featured at the Venice and Whitney Biennials; get represented by<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gagosian.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Gagosian<\/a>, with sales prices in the six figure category, place the work in all the major museums, you know the usual stuff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">Seriously, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve talked to lots of older artists and they admit as time goes by it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s harder and harder to keep working.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>There was a study done here in New York years ago, that stated; if you start with one hundred, 25 year old art school graduates who are pursuing a career in art, for every decade that passes, fifty percent drop out.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>So by the time you&#8217;re in your mid-fifties, 94% of your fellow artists (at least those who are still alive) have taken up some other goal.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>This might have shifted slightly, but the message is: to just keep working is success.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t see what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s happening on the internet as a threat to the<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Kalm Report\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em>, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s all opportunity.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Every day I hear from people who say,\u00c2\u00a0<em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153hey I could do that, I made a video once&#8230; or, &#8220;I had the idea years ago, but just didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have the time&#8221;, <\/em>etc<em>.<\/em><span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>Since I started, there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been a huge burst of streaming art and gallery programming, most of it strictly commercial.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>My viewers appreciate a more personal view, from street level; urgent, edgy and raw, something that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not exclusively market driven.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve yet to see the online sales of art challenge the <em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153bricks and mortar\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em> market, but adaptability is the key to success.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Smart dealers will always incorporate successful new technologies.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Whether individual artists will be able to harness this tool to the extent that they could sell works at $20,000 a pop is still to be seen.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>In many ways the art market is a legalized Ponzi scheme, early collectors buy cheap, enlist critics and curators, flip to the next level collectors, and so on.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s how you increase value.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Still, serious collectors willing to spend serious money look for a venerable institution (a bank or a Bernie Madoff) to back up their purchases.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d love to see an artist become a blue-chip name using only the internet, but for individuals, this lack of backing will always limit the prices they can achieve.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\"><span><em>fd: I normally stop at 8 questions, but have to ask about your recent Facebook debate on whether art history can be owned or should exist for public record. You also claim that this reportage is in itself, performance art and should be perceived as such. \u00c2\u00a0Out here in the suburbs of southeastern Pennsylvania, it&#8217;s often simply too far for me to get into NY to see shows or even to blockbuster museum exhibits. Having your video &#8216;reviews&#8217; makes the world of art in NYC come alive. How do you respond to those who suggest that you&#8217;re infringing on gallerists&#8217; private property or certain copyright laws of art usage?<\/em><\/span><!--EndFragment--><em>\u00c2\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">LM:\u00c2\u00a0This is probably one of the most salient questions as we enter this new paradigm.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>After I received a threatening email from a dealer through my YouTube channel, claiming I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d infringed on his copyrights, I posted a response on my Facebook page.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>Not surprisingly it got more replies than anything else I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve posted.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>The consensus was that I should stand my ground and call his bluff.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve always concluded that my practice only exists through the cooperation of the community.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m hoping that by giving me access, they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll benefit from my expertise and the exposure I provide.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>With over three hundred programs posted, there have been a tiny percentage of complaints, mostly out of embarrassment and shyness rather than for ethical reasons.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>My attitude is that art is news, and I have a journalistic duty to try to bring viewers the truth.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>This is combined with the idea that each video is also a performance and documentation.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I go into these openings without a script or preplanning.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>What happens, happens, and I very rarely use voiceover narrative.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>I should be covered by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fair_use\" target=\"_blank\">fair use rules<\/a>, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/constitution\/constitution.billofrights.html\" target=\"_blank\">First Amendment<\/a>.<span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>In most cases, dealers aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t going to take the time to raise a stink.<span>\u00c2\u00a0 <\/span>If there were big bucks being paid by the viewers, then that might change.<span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an incredible amount of work, but I just feel privileged to be able to bring a little part of the New York art scene to people all around the world, and as always,<em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153thanks Kate\u00e2\u20ac\u009d!<\/em><span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><span>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><span>\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">And thank <em>you<\/em> Loren, for asserting your rights on New York city streets and continuing to provide us with these informative and timely reports. As both a painter and a tv production veteran, I&#8217;d love to see these videos evolve into a dedicated arts channel, both online and on that old +50 year old standby, television.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">James Kalm report <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lorenmunk.com\/videos\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">Martin Bromirski&#8217;s photos of Loren&#8217;s studio <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/43686206@N00\/3794252458\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ecmsonormal\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment-->\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment-->\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I first met Loren, aka his reportage alias James Kalm, online. In fact I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve only corresponded with him online. But I feel as though I know him through his video reviews of the NYC arts scene. As James Kalm, he &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/interview-with-loren-munk\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,188],"tags":[27,716,278,714,712,707,193,710,709,711,713,708,1711,717],"class_list":["post-5290","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-daily-meanderings","category-interviews","tag-art","tag-arts-critics","tag-blog","tag-brooklyn-rail","tag-exhibits","tag-interactive-television","tag-interview","tag-james-kalm-report","tag-loren-munk","tag-museum-openings","tag-nyc","tag-online-videos","tag-paintings","tag-writers-on-art"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5290","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5290"}],"version-history":[{"count":73,"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5290\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5367,"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5290\/revisions\/5367"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5290"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5290"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.furiousdreams.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5290"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}